Graham Rousell

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  • in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4946
    Graham Rousell
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    Hi Paul,
    I spoke with a nice chap at Robotbirds. He gave me some leads for motors and ESC, but the key point he said was that it was best to build the model, balance and then weigh it before committing to any solution. I must admit this also makes some sense as I have no idea on the ground clearance for a prop or if any additional weight may be needed to balance around the CofG. So it seems I need to get back up in the loft and finish the construction, as much as possible anyway.
    Take care and speak again soon. Thanks again,

    Graham.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4942
    Graham Rousell
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    Many thanks again Paul… I will try Robotbirds and see what they have to say before making any final decisions.

    Take care and best regards,

    Graham.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4940
    Graham Rousell
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    Hi Paul,
    Many thanks for the leads, my thoughts and order of preference may be…..
    1. The Turnigy. It seems a very good offer, however I notice it recommended a much larger prop than I think could probably fit with the model (12×6). The one provided with the gas engine kit was a 10×6, but from the on-line calculations for electric an 11×7 was suggested (I have no idea how to spec these however, so bow to your better judgement). If I went for this would it be a case of experimenting with the prop when I got to that stage? I would however aim for an ESC that handled either 3S or 4S batteries, and from what I understand an ESC for 3S would require higher current ratings (down to the wattage required I guess: W=V x A)
    2. ElectricWingman’s calculator suggested the AXi 2820/10 v2 with a 10.5×5 prop, Skywalker 40A ESC with 3s Battery. £75.00 seems quite high but maybe this is the norm for a motor? A big difference between this and the Turnigy.
    3. And then the Ripmax… stocks seem to be quite patchy from what I saw.

    Does this reasoning seem about right or are there areas I’m way off the mark on?

    Many thanks again.

    G.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4938
    Graham Rousell
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    Well some time has passed since I last revisited this project, and certainly we have all had new experiences to deal with in 2020 so far. I hope you are all keeping safe and well.
    I have finally been able to look into working on this again, having acquired the new TX, RX and servos discussed in another thread. I’m now investigating the Motor, ESC and Battery.
    With the published weight of this model being 5.5lb, and spec’d for the SC 40A engine with 10×6 Prop, I noted Paul’s advice above as requiring something like a 500w motor. Referring on line I saw for training it could be more forgiving to use something like 400W, with 35A ESC, using 3S battery (2800mAh). I guess they are both in the right ballpark in any case.
    I also have a question regarding the mount to use, given the original was an ICE mount and now it requires an OBL medium (?) motor mount. There seem to be a confusing range of these so how to choose the correct one?

    Any advice on suitable motors, ESC’s, mounts and where best to get them from will be gratefully received.

    Best regards,

    Graham

    in reply to: Radio change to Spektrum – recommendations please #4589
    Graham Rousell
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    Ian,
    Excellent information and detail, thank you!

    From this I think I should be able to go for the DX8G2 (which leaves plenty of room for my experience to grow – ever the optimist!) , and a couple of 4 or 6 channel receivers for now of the Lemon range you recommend. Telemetry sounds like it could be useful, so I’ll investigate this aspect more.

    Thank you once again.

    G.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4514
    Graham Rousell
    Participant

    Thanks for this info Paul. It seems I may have more work to do than I imagined….
    I checked my Parkzone Foamy glider and it did indeed have the RG411 inside. I’m now quite amazed that it never got lost up to now, given the fact it was being rapidly taken up by the thermals around the field. Given this info I think I need to upgrade that receiver to a full-range, and consider the Pilot trainer conversion further (in the initial training sessions I’m sure the “park flyer” receiver could be sufficient).

    On an aside I’ve also seen that JR receivers seem quite expensive to get in this country, although some much cheaper ones quote compatibility with both Spektrum and JR…. though I would risk that route with my limited knowledge. Maybe I shall be changing to Spektrum gear in the near future.

    I’ve learnt a lot in these chats, for which I thank you. Suitably armed I shall plod on with the build/conversion and consider a radio change in the future.

    Best regards,

    Graham.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4512
    Graham Rousell
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    Aaah thanks again Paul. I must admit I thought I also had an RG411 also in my foamy, but more likely I’m mistaken in that case. I’ll check this out but aim to use the RG631 in any case.
    Some work to do at my side, but it seems I’m better armed now. Many thanks.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4510
    Graham Rousell
    Participant

    Many thanks again Paul.
    RG411b it is then and new servos.
    Best regards,
    Graham.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4508
    Graham Rousell
    Participant

    Hi Paul,
    I originally thought the servos were from the early 90’s, however on the box a label shows PN 14235 1999.11, so we might assume 1999!

    I also took a look to the receiver modules I have that came along with the JR transmitter (aside from the one in my foamy glider).
    1 x RG631B (with a connected RA01L),
    1 x RG 411B
    The 631B has two antenna wires, and one more on the RA01L (whatever this is… telemetry??). The RG411B has no antenna connected.
    I shall also need to consider the electric motor and ESC.

    All considered, I wonder if it’s even worth bothering with the servos in the kit and I should just go for new ones as you suggested. £10.00 each sounds like it not being worth the risk to keep the old ones.
    I shall then consider ebay for the Hitec FM 35MHz set complete.
    Any advice on the receivers I have?
    … and what about the electric motor and ESC… I had heard there was a recommended site to spec this out? The Glow Engine I have currently is an SC 40A 6.64cc (unused, still in original box), with a 10×6 Prop. I see what you mean by the prices on ebay!

    Sorry for so many questions, but I’ve already learnt a lot from you so many thanks for your time.
    Graham.

    in reply to: "Upcycling" Tiger Trainer 40 kit #4506
    Graham Rousell
    Participant

    Hi Paul,
    Thanks for responding.
    The servos are Hitec HS-300 (Standard). I have four of them. When I looked at the spec I can see two voltages 4.8V: 0.19 sec/60° & 6.0V: 0.15 sec/60°, so how do I know which I have, or can they run from either voltage?
    I may already have another JR receiver, I’ll check, otherwise if you think they can work together that seems a good plan.
    I’ll look on the BMFA site regarding the glowplug.. many thanks.
    Best regards,
    Graham.

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